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If you didn’t know it, the House Democrats think they are looking out for your best interests regarding your recent 401(k) losses, in a discussion to confiscate them, and then nationalize them. An example of how this would effect our personal 401(k) is at the end of the post under RANT ON. Basically right now, we get a 46% return GUARANTEED on our initial investment. Under the Dem’s plan to nationalize our retirement, our return would only be 1%. So who is exactly who looking out for our best interests?
The House Democrats are discussing taking 401(k)s back to the value they were in August, 2008 before the stock market declined and restoring the 401(k) back to its full value. Then they are discussing seizing those funds and putting it into a Social Security fund that will grow by 3% each year with government bonds, which will be adjusted for inflation. The most one would be able to contribute to it each year would be 5%. A company match will no longer happen.
A plan by a professor of economic-policy, Teresa Ghilarducci, states that, all workers would receive a $600 annual inflation-adjusted subsidy from the U.S. government but would be required to invest 5 percent of their pay into a guaranteed retirement account administered by the Social Security Administration. The money in turn would be invested in special government bonds that would pay 3% a year, adjusted for inflation. [Ghilarducci’s Testamony to the House [PDF] on October 07, 2008]
“I want to stop the federal subsidy of 401(k)s,” Ghilarducci said in an interview. “401(k)s can continue to exist, but they won’t have the benefit of the subsidy of the tax break.” “I want to spend our nation’s dollar for retirement security better. Everybody would now be covered” if the plan were adopted. John Belluardo, president of Stewardship Financial Services Inc. in Tarrytown, NY has said, “From where I sit that’s just crazy.” “A lot of people contribute to their 401(k)s because of the match of the employer,” he said. “If the tax deferral goes away, the employers have no reason to do the matches, which primarily help people in the lower income brackets,” said Belluardo.
Ed Ferrigno, vice president of the Washington office of The Profit Sharing/401(k) Council of America has said, “Some of the tenor [of the hearings last week] that the entire system should be based on the activities of the markets in the last 90 days is not the way to judge the system.”
James Pethokoukis writing for the US News described the plan:
In place of 401(k) plans, she [Ghilarducci] would have workers transfer their dough into the government-created “guaranteed retirement accounts” for every worker. The government would deposit $600 (inflation indexed) every year into the GRAs. Each worker would also have to save 5% of pay into the accounts, to which the government would pay a measly 3% return. Rep. Jim McDermott, a Democrat from Washington and chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee’s Subcommittee on Income Security and Family Support, said that since “the savings rate isn’t going up for the investment of $80 billion [in 401(k) tax breaks], we have to start to think about whether or not we want to continue to invest that $80 billion for a policy that’s not generating what we now say it should.”
The Carolina Journal and LGF reported:
Democrats in the U.S. House have been conducting hearings on proposals to confiscate workers’ personal retirement accounts - including 401(k)s and IRAs - and convert them to accounts manged by the Social Security Administration. Triggered by the financial crisis the past two months, the hearings reportedly were meant to stem losses incurred by many workers and retirees whose 401)k) and IRA balances have been shrinking rapidly.
The testimony of Teresa Ghilarducci, professor of economic policy analysis at the New School of Social Research in New York, in hearings Oct. 7 drew the most attention and criticism. Testifying for the House Committee on Education and Labor, Ghilarducci proposed that the government eliminate tax breaks for 401(k) and similar retirement accounts, such as IRAs, and confiscate workers’ retirement plan accounts and convert them to universal Guaranteed Retirement Accounts (GRAs) managed by the Social Security Administration.
This type of plan didn’t work so well in Argentina. In Argentina, private pensions are somewhat like 401(k) accounts in the United States. Argentine lawmakers are considering a plan to nationalize about $26 billion in private pension funds. Argentina announced last month on October 21, in what has been called a “surprise bill”, that it was taking over the pension system to protect workers from losses, thus nationalizing the pension system in a way to raise funds to avoid its second default in a decade. Currently Argentina has about $150 billion in debt. More
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